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Jim Webb on 'Givers' and 'Takers' - James Fallows - The Atlantic


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Those young Marines that I led have grown older now. They've lived lives of courage, both in combat and after their return, where many of them were derided by their own peers for having served. That was a long time ago. They are not bitter. They know what they did. But in receiving veterans' benefits, they are not takers. They were givers, in the ultimate sense of that word. There is a saying among war veterans: "All gave some, some gave all." This is not a culture of dependency. It is a part of a long tradition that gave this country its freedom and independence. They paid, some with their lives, some through wounds and disabilities, some through their emotional scars, some through the lost opportunities and delayed entry into civilian careers which had already begun for many of their peers who did not serve.

And not only did they pay. They will not say this, so I will say it for them. They are owed, if nothing else, at least a mention, some word of thanks and respect, when a presidential candidate who is their generational peer makes a speech accepting his party's nomination to be commander-in-chief.

He's right, it was a glaring oversight. How could they forget that???

Romney likely does not want to talk about the war or veterans since he positions on both are not good. 1) stay in the war longer and 2)cut benefits

Really good point, Jared. 

4 years have not changed much...

That's the sad truth about most things. Most things don't change. 

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